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DAY 10

Conversation with Sri Vasudeva

- Saturday April 4, 2009

SEEING WITH THE EYES OF THE WISE


GUIDANCE FROM THE MASTER

Question:        
I have a question about the guidance you feel.  Do you feel guidance of the masters or specific masters when you are engaged in a task?  If so, can you describe this guidance?

Sri Vasudeva: 
Yes we can get guidance from guides or masters from the other dimension. They can certainly guide us.

Question:        
And you feel that?

Sri Vasudeva: 
Sometimes you may feel in touch with the energy of certain masters and as you read their words or you think about them, you feel guidance coming to you.  So yes, we can have that kind of connection with these beings.

Question:        
If I feel guidance telling me to go to the right but I was planning to go to the left, should I always follow the guidance?

Sri Vasudeva: 
Well when you think of guidance, it also brings in the question of whether it is very clear guidance or is your ego involved?  Generally when there is very clear guidance, there is a tendency inside us to want to follow it because it seems so clear.  But if the guidance is not so clear, and we  have doubts in it - own ego can interfere and we think it might be guidance but we may not be sure or then we want to doubt the guidance.  So the more clarity we have inside and the more connected we are to the energy of the guides, the easier it is to follow and the more is the wanting to follow and the more we feel that it’s right to follow.  So the ego interferes with the interpretation.

Question:        
Do you feel the guidance of the Holy Spirit?   

Sri Vasudeva: 
Well the Holy Spirit for me, is the Kundalini Energy and of course I always feel the guidance of this Energy.  This Energy has been my guide from the beginning when it awakened within me.  I saw the Guru only as someone helping to awaken that Energy inside of me but the Energy has been the Guide.  For me, the Energy is my Guide – the Divine Energy inside, the Holy Spirit.

Question:        
There are light forces and dark forces in our universe.  Is it also possible to get guidance from dark forces?

Sri Vasudeva: 
He’s saying that there are light forces and dark forces in the universe and how do we ensure that we are working with the light.  Well the truth is dark forces wouldn’t want to use instruments of the light.  The dark forces would look for dark instruments.  So if you’re a person looking for light then certainly dark forces are not going to play with you.  There will be enough dark instruments to go to so they wouldn’t have anything to do with you.  So stay in the light.  That’s the way you avoid dark forces.

KARMA AND THE ENLIGHTENED BEINGS
 
Question:        
You were saying here that the enlightened beings are acting in accordance with a higher principle or law that we call the karmic law but an enlightened being hasn’t got any karmic…

Sri Vasudeva: 
Enlightened beings are in touch with the inner space and they work in        accordance with the karmic law.  They don’t want to disturb the plan that is there     for people’s lives.

Question:        
But not your own? 

Sri Vasudeva: 
Yes, they are also fulfilling karma by the work they do in the world.  So though they have become liberated, the body may still have its karma.  When they became liberated they would have been living in a community or have friends in the community.  So all these things they did before they became liberated, also bring a sense of responsibility.  Let us say before someone became liberated they have a family and they have children, then they have to maintain that.  They have to continue because the children depend on them.   Even if they had disciples   before they became liberated, and after liberation they don’t need disciples anymore, they fulfill the karma because the disciples want them. 

So they fulfill their obligations and they do so willingly and happily because it doesn’t matter for them.  They are not in bondage anymore.  They are free.  But in that freedom they fulfill their obligations in a much better way than when they were not free.  They fulfill it happily knowing, “I’m not attached to this.”  So in a different way they fulfill their karma.

But every being who is in the universe and in a form, is involved in the law of karma.  The fact that they have a form means that they have a karmic responsibility to the form because the form is a creation and all creation falls under the law of karma.  If you have a form then you have to be obligated to it because at some point you were the cause for the form to be created.  Based on your desires lifetime to lifetime, you generated more and more desires to create    more and more forms.   So they become free but all the residual karma, all the karmas that were there from the past, they work it through.  So that’s the difference.

Question:        
Would you say that it’s karma that keeps you in bondage?  And that it’s karma that influences the way that your life is going to turn out?Sri Vasudeva: 


Karma is based on all the choices we have made.  So when we make a choice then we are actually putting ourselves in a certain bondage.  If I make a choice to live in a certain country then I’m also saying that I have to accept all the limitations of this country.   If I put myself in relationship, I’m also saying that I accept everything that will happen in this relationship.  So I’m bound to these things.  So karmas are things we create by choices that we make.

Participant:     
But I actually mean the karma that binds the unenlightened.

Sri Vasudeva: 
Well it is all of this, isn’t it?   We create desires for different things in the world out of ignorance and they bind us in their consequences.  The law of karma means   that “as you sow so shall you reap”.  Once you make choices, once you make decisions, if it’s based on  ignorance, then it may have all kinds of consequences - some you may not be happy with.  But in an enlightened states you make more positive kind of karmas.  You say good things and do good things and they    attract better consequences.  So in ignorance we create all kinds of karmas and they may bring pain and…

Participant:     
But you’re still creating karma in your enlightened state because you are involved in …

Sri Vasudeva:  Yes, once you’re active in the world and you’re part of the world process, then you create a karma.  Once you have a body, the body needs to eat.   You need to  get food and you make to make choices in doing that.  You make choices in drinking water and keeping the body healthy.  So there are always different kinds of karmas.
 
THE MIND OF A GURU

Question:        
I think it’s fair to say that all our minds are busy all the time and thoughts just keep coming  and going and we have no control at all.  They just pop up without us even realizing that they are there.  So I was wondering, how is it with you, for example when you are just walking or taking a shower?   When a thought comes up, is it because you want them to come up?

Sri Vasudeva: 
Yes but it’s not like a mind that cannot be controlled because the space that I am in is a different kind of space.  It is a space where I feel that I’m held in an energy. It’s not like a normal space where someone is restless and their mind is moving all over the place and they are wondering what is the goal of life and whether they are happy or not.  Those thoughts are not there.  Peace is there.  Happiness is there.   I can feel my full energy body so I know what every chakra is doing and I’m tapping into every chakra and using its power to the fullest.  So I’m seeing differently.  It’s like a pilot on a plane being able to see all the gauges and can adjust any one that he wants to.  And so there is control, not in a forceful way but there is control in a space of ease, a space of peace.  So no matter what I am doing, I am centered there and that’s a really nice feeling.  So I don’t have problems with the mind moving here or moving there.

But I may be thinking about something deeply.  I may be thinking  “What am I going to say in my talk today?” or “What shall I say to this one?” and the moment I begin to think of it, a lot of ideas seem to come into my space and I’m respecting the ideas that come and I’m looking for the one to use and if I don’t see an appropriate one that I feel I can use now, I’m waiting and knowing that the right one will come and I’m playing with the ideas that I have and keeping it loosely whilst I’m waiting for another one.  And then the idea will come.

And as I go about doing things I’m always aware of my body.  I’m aware of how I am using my body.  What is the energy of the body?  How in rhythm I am with the universe around me?  What is the body feeling from everything around me?  So there’s a huge awareness of the energy field around and my body’s experience of the energy field.  Then I may be looking at my breathing and using it effectively with one or the other of the chakras just to keep my energy field higher.

Several things may be going on but whatever is happening I can see it in a big space and I can see how to manage each one.  But in all of that, I am being in harmony with my universe.  So always I am thinking “What is the power of the universe wanting of me in this situation?” 

if I’m thinking, “I have to come and see Charles,” I’m thinking about him and I’m thinking about his day and I’m holding it in my mind and I’m thinking of how nice it’s going to be talking with him.   So I’m holding him in my mind before I come to speak with him and I’m thinking of where he is sitting, how long he is sitting and how to make everything nice for him.  So I’m already planning that in my mind but it’s being done in a nice space.   So even before I do something, I’m already thinking of it.

it’s a whole different way of functioning but in that, I am feeling so fully supported by the universe and I want to work in the best harmony that I can, to fulfill everybody’s wishes in the space.  I feel a sense of responsibility for every person here and every person who communicates with me from across the world I feel responsible.  I feel that they are on this journey with me, they are there following me so I need to also give them the best that I can.  So I’m holding everything in that big space inside which is the divine space and I’m looking for all the guidance to be able to do that and I’m listening to every bit of guidance that I can find inside of me and coming and from outside of me to make it better. 

When people come to me with ideas about the ashram, for example, I’m thinking the universe is sending these ideas to me.  And when people come to me and say “I’ll help you to do this and I’ll help you to do that,” I see how the universe is actually making things happen for me so I can see how when I stay in that state, or when I keep working with the divine how everything happens in the perfect way and that I never have to worry about anything. 

I can speak for hours on this state and what it’s like.  It’s magical.  So that’ why I’m asking you to make the effort, discipline yourself a little more so that you can begin to experience this wonderful state of being where you never have to worry about anything, where you can see everything happening in the perfect way.  That’s what the state is like.  I don’t know to describe it in a way that you will fully understand but I’m choosing words and ideas to give you an idea of it.

And in the meditation I try to inspire you to go there and to feel it.  That’s what I try to do.  When I’m singing that’s what I try to do.  Go to that place and feel from where I’m singing.  When I’m meditating I’m saying, “Come into my space and see what it’s like, where I am.”  So I’m constantly doing all of these things to inspire you to come into that space.  So that’s a little bit of what happens in my world. 

ONE THOUGHT OR NO THOUGHTS?

Participant:      
For the last two days I’ve been practicing saying the mantra during seva and it’s been going pretty well keeping the thoughts out of my head except for when I’m in meditation.   It seems like I find it more difficult to keep one thought in the mind than to keep no thoughts in the mind.   

Sri Vasudeva: 
Well if you can’t keep one thought in the mind then you can’t keep no thoughts in the mind.  You think you’re keeping no thoughts in the mind, that it’s easier.  But if you can keep one thought in the mind then you’ve really mastered the mind.  Then when that thought drops, then that kind of silence is having no thought in the mind – not before.   When the mind is managed and you come into a quiet space, it’s more powerful than if you begin by just being quiet and thinking you have no thoughts.  That’s a good point.

MASTERING THE MIND

Question:        
As you know I’m new in this path.   I’m grateful for the guidance of today’s lesson that is telling me to practice the exercise of the mantra and affirmation during meditation and whenever I have too many thoughts in my mind.  I have yet to realize the Energy and Power you speak of.  I find it a bit low in me.  Does the Energy and Power come also to one with the mantra and affirmations?

Sri Vasudeva: 
Yes.  That’s a good question.  The mantra and affirmation are just to manage your mind and when you are able to manage your mind, you will actually see more of what lies behind the mind and the connection with that becomes greater.  Because when the mind is busy it takes your attention away from that which is powerful within you.  When the mind is managed then you can begin to see what’s behind the mind so you will have a greater sense of the power that’s behind the mind and then you can connect even more with it.  And sometimes if you really get into repeating the mantra you will actually begin to feel that something is helping you to say it and that every time you say it, it becomes more and more powerful.  In the beginning it feels like medicine.  When you’re taking it, it’s a little difficult to stay but as you begin to say it more and more you’ll find that it becomes easier and finally you’ll want to say it because it feels good saying it.  And that’s when grace is really coming in. That’s when that Higher part of you or deeper part of you is helping you.  Thank you…thank you for that.  

Participant:     
The meditation is easier for me when you guide it.   It is not that strong and one-pointed like in the morning when you guide it.

Sri Vasudeva: 
But when I’m guiding in the morning you have support, right?  So it becomes easier.  And at noon when you’re on your own, you have to put a little more energy because it’s a little harder right?  But you don’t want to give up and say, “Well it was easier in the morning so I always want it like the morning.”

I’m saying that sometimes it may require the effort to stay with it because the mind can be like a little child.  It wants to go back to the comfortable period and when it’s a little bit uncomfortable, it begins to complain and it begins to compare.  So  keep it there and say, “No no no no no.  We’re going to do it.  We’re going to feel exactly like in the morning even though Guruji is not there but we’re going to feel exactly like in the morning because his Energy is here.”  And you begin to talk to the mind.  Begin to do it.  Try and even if you don’t do it one hundred percent,  you’re going to come back to it again because you need to do it on your own as well.  You don’t want to be forever listening to meditation CDs or forever wanting to have somebody around you to support you.  It’s nice when you can begin to find it inside you.  So I would say stay with it sometimes and try to transform it. 

When you bring the soham to the heart and it’s not feeling as nice as in the morning, you work with it.  Say “No no.  It has to feel nice now as it was in the morning.  I’m going to make it happen because that state which I felt in the morning, is inside of me.  It is not with Guruji or anybody else.  It is inside of me.  I got it in the morning.  I’m going to pull it out back.”

Participant:      
Yes, the feeling was good but the concentration was less.

Sri Vasudeva:  
That’s okay.   Sometimes the different times of the day might have different qualities – but work with what you get.  Be happy with that.

Participant:      
Yesterday  I wanted to go to the brow chakra and it did not happen and I stayed at the heart chakra.  Is that okay?

Sri Vasudeva:  
That’s fine.  Let the Energy dictate.  Let the Energy tell you where it wants to go.  The Energy is a good leader.  So if it wants to stay with the heart then it’s working in that area and allow it to stay there.  And bring the other tools to the heart area and work there.

Participant:      
I was trying to think ‘I’m in the love space so let me see what I can feel of the love space and what I can feel from others but I just felt love from the space but not from individuals.

Sri Vasudeva:  
Well who knows?  It could be coming from others because you felt it in the space and the space had people.

Participant:      
Yes, but I could not locate from which person it was coming.

Sri Vasudeva:  
Well it’s in the whole space.

Participant:      
Yes, but I know you can say it’s coming from this one or coming from that one.

Sri Vasudeva:  
No, no I don’t only do that when I’m in the space.  If my eyes are open then I may look to connect with you if your eyes are open or if I want to.  Generally I focus on the whole space.

Question:         
Is a mantra so powerful in offering you protection and freedom because of the energy stored in it over time and does the mantra have no karma included in it?”

Sri Vasudeva:   
Well yes, the mantra may have some karma included in it.  If you get the mantra from a teacher, it comes with the energy of the teacher and so it brings good karma with it.  If you’re repeating a mantra that is thousands of years old, the energy of the mantra will be in the subtle energy atmosphere so that mantra has a good karma.  If you’re repeating negative thoughts of people or negative slogans or negative sayings of people who are negative, that’s a negative karma.  But generally mantras are made for lifting people, for lifting vibration and if the mantra is an ancient mantra - very old, thousands of years old - then it carries more power because so many people have repeated it and that energy is in the atmosphere.  And if a mantra is given to you by a teacher directly, (looking at you or saying it to you, being attentive to you) that mantra has extra power.  It carries the karma, the good karma that the teacher is putting into it. 

TRAINING FOR THE CHALLENGE

Question:         
We choose our friends but we don’t choose our family.  We know which relationships to stay away from because they leave us weak.  Yet it is very hard to stay away.  Is my own weakness and ego making it hard to stay away from some people?

Sri Vasudeva:  
Yes I would say it is…that is if you need to stay away.  If you need to stay away from people and you’re not staying away, it is your own weakness.  Life is teaching you how to be stronger by showing you your weakness and telling you   that you need to transform this.  And when you are able to get this kind of knowledge or this kind of training, you can see life is also giving on the one hand the training to help you to deal with the challenges on the other hand.  So you see how life is being gracious to you.  It’s showing you your weaknesses, telling you to be careful in certain relationships or to stay away from others, and it’s showing you how to do with this kind of training and this kind of exercise.  So your life is full of grace.  Just to be able to understand what you’re saying is a sign of grace.  The next step is really to transform the weakness that is involved.   

HOW DO I INTERACT WITH OTHERS
WHEN THE ENERGY IS PULLING ME INWARD?

Question:         
As I do the meditation and go deeper within - especially at the eyebrow chakra, as the energy goes upward - I find that I am more and more inward and less and less in contact with what is going on around me or in my interactions with others.  I don’t really feel a need to interact with others at this time for this is where the energy wants to go – but I must work and interact with others. How do I reconcile these two things?”

Sri Vasudeva:  
That’s a very nice question.  In fact when you’re having spiritual changes within you and spiritual transformation, spiritual processing, it feels very difficult to engage in worldly activities.  It is very difficult actually, because it’s a whole different field of energy.  And when this is happening within you and your inner being is calling for your attention, by virtue of this, you need to just do the minimum amount on the outside and stay engaged in your process on the inside.

This is not going to happen forever.  This is only for a time.  The journey outside will come again.  When the chakra is opened up to a certain level you will  actually feel that you can use it outside powerfully.  So the wanting to stay inside and wanting to process inside is only for a certain period.  Afterwards you will feel the power to use it outside. 

I would say to you that during this sort of inner processing what you should do is the minimum kind of interaction on the outside.  Just do whatever you have to do, don’t get too caught up in the things on the outside.  Do what you need to do but use the rest of the time to work on the inside.  That’s what I would say.

IS THERE VALUE IN DOING PUJAS (RITUALS)?

Question:         
I have been following  the path of Sanatan Dharma.  Is there value in continuing to do different pujas?

Sri Vasudeva:  
I don’t want to tell people to give up pujas.  I think pujas have value and for those of you who may not know what a puja is, it is the Hindu ritual offering to the Divine, to God.  I think pujas have their value and it is up to you.  It is a matter of choice.  They are the material way of offering and if you are happy with it, if you find that it lifts you…

They are meant to purify our senses.  When we do them we can actually feel that our thoughts are better or our physical atmosphere is better or the physical senses feel purer.  So they’re meant for that.   But if you feel that you have the sense of purity and the sense of divinity or this sort of God connection without doing that, then it means that you have gone to another stage. 

You can continue doing it if you wish or you can honour God in the different ways.  And the Sanatan Dharma also has the other sides to it.  ‘Sanatana Dharma’ means “eternal religion” and it also has other things that you can do.  You can do the meditation, you can do the yoga as well.  It’s all up to you.  You can honour God in so many different ways and pujas are one of those ways and these physical rituals make a difference when they are done with true love and devotion. 

I would say continue to do them if they have value to you or to children or to family or to community – continue to do them.  And if you feel that you don’t need them anymore then you may not do them if you wish.  So the choice is yours.

THE ARRIVAL OF GRACE

Participant:      
I think it’s grace that I experience when my mind wanders away from the mantra and the Kundalini jolts me and then I come back again to the mantra.

Sri Vasudeva:  
Yes, exactly.   So once you make the effort with the training, the grace will come.  Once you make the effort, at some point the effort is going to bear fruit.

Participant:     
Since yesterday I had been practicing the meditation using the mantra and finding it very difficult – difficult to the point where I gave up.   I was sitting here for a midday meditation and after fifteen minutes I felt like I’d done an hour and I left the meditation hall, frustrated.  Outside another disciple was there and she asked me if I was okay and if I wanted her help and I did.  So we did the meditation again using soham and it felt so much easier having support.  What I felt was that I actually received grace.  I actually felt I was enjoying it and though it was only a short space of time, I know it helped me. 

Also you mentioned the word “lazy” and that struck with me – a lazy mind and a lazy body.  So I promised myself that I will do yoga every day, to strengthen my body and in turn to strengthen my mind.  And then the mantra will help me strengthen the mind.  So I just wanted to share that in training the mind.

Sri Vasudeva:  
There are several things that are noteworthy there.  First you came in here and you were stressed out but you were well-intentioned.  When you came you decided, “I want to repeat this mantra.  I really want to follow what Guru is saying,” and then you got so stressed out that you didn’t want to violate the sanctity of the hall or the space.  That’s what I would say if you found that you couldn’t be in a state of peace and you preferred to go outside.  So you went outside and there grace appeared.  Somebody is asking you, “How you’re doing?  Are you okay?” and then “Do you need some help?”  So that’s grace manifesting based on your good intentions.  And then they took you back to the same process and got you to shift and to see it in a different way and to begin to enjoy the process.  So it shows that when you make good effort, this is what can happen.  So the important thing here is to learn that lesson and use that afterward so that you could avoid these kinds of situations.

Now, I would say that when you begin a practice - and this is a good place to practice because it supports practice -  stay with the practice.  Make an effort - like you have been planning to do yoga every day.  Do the same things every day.  Every day train your mind into saying this mantra and to actually settling down in it using the soham.  And don’t shift from it.  Get your mind conditioned to learn how to use the mantra and how to get into a state of stability.  That’s where you begin to master the mind because the mind can be like a spoiled child, ready to give up.

Participant:      
That’s what I felt.  I was actually the child just giving up and that frustrates me.

Sri Vasudeva:  
Yes that’s what I’d say but it turned out to be a whole learning event.

IS MEDITATION THE ONLY WAY?

Participant:      
You spoke about enlightened beings opening up themselves so that this power can flow through them.  Is it only through the practice of meditation and deepening our meditation that we can actually open up ourselves to the flow? 

Sri Vasudeva:  
No, meditation is only one of the practices.  But the whole idea is to bring your attention inward, to center yourself inward, and begin to realize what is there inside of us beyond body and mind.  So that’s what the journey of meditation is.  So sometimes this can be done in other things, not only meditation.  Singing for example can take us into a beautiful space inside or sometimes being in nature can do it.   So it’s not just meditation.  Sometimes people get involved in doing some gardening for example and it brings them to a deeper place in communion with the plant.  Sometimes taking care of babies or working with people in a love relationship or a caring relationship can put you into a different dimension of experience.  So it’s not just meditation but meditation is a good practice for disciplining the mind.

Participant:      
Then all those other ways besides meditation would open up more compassion and more love?

Sri Vasudeva:  
Yes, meditation supports those and those support meditation.  But what I wanted to say to you too is that if you make a practice of the same thing whilst you’re walking around - for example, let’s say you walk in the playing field and you’re saying the same thing or you’re doing your seva and you find that you can actually say a mantra with your seva - then when you come into the hall it’s easier.  If you begin that training of the mind outside and not let the mind be idle or wayward, then that discipline comes to you in your meditation to support you. 

THE ROLES WE PLAY

Question:         
While witnessing, if we find ourselves judging our roles in a negative way, what does that indicate?

Sri Vasudeva:  
If we are judging our roles in a negative way then it’s telling something about us. It’s telling that we are judgmental.  If we are judging our roles in a negative way, it means that we are not accepting the roles that are given to us as coming from the divine or as coming from the law of karma or as being there for our growth.  All our roles when they come to us, are there for our growth, for our development and they’re coming by virtue of the law of karma and choices we have made.  The best thing to do is to embrace them and to work with them in order to grow.   

Question:         
If we look at our roles and there is the desire to be better, what does that mean for the observer?

Sri Vasudeva:  
You’re looking at your roles and there’s a desire to be better.  Well, first of all the observer is at work to be looking at the roles.  So that’s a good thing.  And if there’s a desire to be better it means that you’re karmically well placed because just the desire to be better will take you on a path of progress.  So the main thing is maintaining the observer so that you can continue to nurture this desire and continue to look for all the support the universe will send you in response to your desire. 

For example when you desire to be better, the universe is definitely going to support that.  So are there people around you ready to help you?  Are there opportunities where you can work to become better?  You may see those around you.  The universe will make these opportunities come.  And if you stay in the awareness of the observer, seeing these opportunities and seeing how to use them, then certainly progress will come.  So the observer is needed in all these situations.  But I would say that even to see the role and to see that there is a desire to improve it, that’s witnessing the role, that’s observing the role.  And then observing the other things - the response of the universe, the opportunities to grow  -  once you continue on this path, you’re using the observer well I would say.  So thank you for the question.

NARTAK  AATMA

Question:        
What does ‘nartak aatma’ mean?  Does it mean I’m playing a role in the world or the Source is playing its role in or through me?”

Sri Vasudeva:  
Well it’s both  – in the sense that you may have chosen roles.  When you chose to get married to your husband, that’s a decision you made.   So you chose that role of being a wife and being a mother and all the other roles that come from that.  You have chosen that.   The universe has chosen one role for you and that is to become enlightened.  All the other roles are what you have chosen.   It’s as simple as that.

Question:         
If one is listening to the message, what does it mean if one felt as if there was total resonance and no need to practice it?

Sri Vasudeva: 
Well, that is telling me - if there is total resonance - that you are practicing.  That’s why there is resonance and I hope that is so.  But if the resonance is there and the practice is not there (you are practicing other things but you’re resonating with it) that means one part of you is resonating but another part of you is not complying.  So you need to tell me about that.  If it’s resonating within you and it’s consistent with your practice, it’s staying with the practice and that’s fantastic.  That’s the kind of resonance you want.  It must be resonant in your inner being and resonating in the practices as well.  If there’s resonance inside but not in compliance on the outside, then something is not too right there.  There is work to be done.

ASLEEP DURING MEDITATION

Question:        
I’m falling asleep during meditation - deep sleep and I wake up very restful.  What should I do?

Sri Vasudeva: 
It means that you’re resting your body well.  Perhaps you’re getting a better quality sleep there than in your actually sleeping period.  But that raises the question of whether you are working too hard or not taking enough rest.  That’s why when you sit to meditate the body is asking for deep sleep so that it can be rested.  So look at the quality of your rest and whether you’re working too hard and taking too little rest so in the meditation the body is asking for it.  But that’s not the place for resting.  Meditation is not the place for resting.

If it’s happening as a phase, then that’s okay.  If you’ve had enough rest and this continues to happen, then it might be a certain phase and it will go away. In that case you don’t worry about it.  But if it’s happening continuously then look to see whether you’re getting enough rest or not.   

CAN I MEDITATE WITH MY EYES OPEN?
 
Question:         
You said this morning when we are meditating we shut ourselves off from all the visual stimuli when we close our eyes but during the seva I say these mantras and it feels like if I’m meditating with my eyes open.

Sri Vasudeva:  
That’s excellent.  Well that’s the second stage.  The first stage is when the visual affects you, then you need to train yourself by closing your eyes but the more advanced stage is keeping the eyes open and being able to see more.

Question:         
Can one understand your experience and the space you speak of without one’s chakras being fully open?

Sri Vasudeva:  
No.   To really appreciate the things I’ve been saying about my experience,   the chakras need to open because that’s how I got them and that’s how I can stay there because I can feel the chakras being open.  So you are atma – you have all these chakras within you and they can be opened.  All you need to do is to go after opening them up.  

THE EGO IN SERVICE TO THE INNER SELF

Question:         
The wish that the ego must be in service to the Inner Self - is this a good wish?

Sri Vasudeva:  
That’s the best wish.  If your ego can be in service to the Inner Self, well that’s the best wish.

 

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